I found your list of the top 30 prospects and really enjoyed the
info shared. But where can I go to find out more info of potential
prospects, specifically high school guys?
My son is a shortstop from a high school in Texas. He is being
visited with several scouts and trying to get a feel as we know
nothing about nothing.
He has turned enough heads and have rec’d enough pro info / player
“Q” / medical info to muddy up the water. This idea of answering
“what round would you sign in?” is difficult w/out knowing more
about the draft itself.
Thanks so much.
Baseball Examiner:
Thank you for your inquiry. Baseball
America does a great job with high school prospects. Their preseason
Top 100 is at
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/highschool/050201top100.html.
Their Prospects Plus service is a phenomenal compilation of several
high school prospect scouting reports. The lesser of the two plans
provides all kinds of prospect lists but without the scouting
reports.
For other information about dealing with scouts & matters like that,
www.hsbaseballweb.com is
one site that could help you. Another great website is
www.perfectgame.org. Perfect
Game puts together plenty of high school showcases, allowing scouts
the opportunity to see several of the top high school prospects
against each other.
For many more sites, go to
www.baseball-links.com
and click on the Scouting/Recruiting/Tryouts link. You might be able
to find plenty of helpful information from any of the sites there.
I'm not familiar with your son so I have
no idea what scouts may think of him, but I have a few thoughts on
what they might mean by asking him what round he'd be willing to
sign in.
First of all, if he's not been to any of the Perfect Game showcases
or anything like that, it's very unlikely that he'll be selected in
the first few rounds. (see the 2004 Draft facts at http://www.perfectgame.org/2005/whos%5Fhot/)
Secondly, I'm sure they ask the question about willingness to sign
because of money (i.e. signing bonus). What they're trying to get at
is: would he be willing to sign without receiving a signing bonus?
If he would request a signing bonus, how much is he requesting?
At
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/2004draft/2004draftdb.html,
you can search the 2004 draft round by round with all the signing
bonuses included. The players in bold are those who signed. The
unbolded players did not sign. This will give you an idea about what
kind of money to generally expect in each round. For example:
3rd round = ~$400,000
5th round = ~$150,000-200,000
9th round = ~$60,000-70,000
As you would see, almost no players drafted after the 10th round
receive any kind of signing bonus. The only ones who are signed past
the 10th round are players who have top-round talent but slipped to
later rounds in the draft due to either injury concerns or
extravagant bonus demands that teams didn't want to pay, so they
draft them late and try to talk them down. If the team isn't able to
talk them down, well, then they only wasted a late round pick
instead of wasting an early round pick on a player they couldn't
sign.
If the scouts see your son as a possible pick in the first 10
rounds, they may want to know what round he's willing to sign in
based on how much he's willing to sign for. For example, if your son
says he won't sign for anything less than $100,000, then they better
see him as no worse than a 6th or 7th round value or they might
not draft him at all because they've been scared off that he won't
sign for anything less than $100,000.
It's possible that if the scouts see him as a potential 15th or 20th
round pick, then they want to know if he's willing to sign without
receiving any bonus money at all. If your son demands money and they
don't see him as a potential pick in the first 10 rounds, he may not
get drafted at all.
Another thing scouts have to take into account is how serious a
player may be to a college commitment. A player could say something
like "If you don't sign me for ($X amount), then I'm going to
college." If the scout thinks that the kid is not worth the signing
bonus demand, he probably will be passed over for other kids who
will be willing to sign for less or nothing.
Some kids drafted in later rounds (with no signing bonus) may choose
college over signing a professional contract. Others may be willing
to sign a professional contract for no bonus. These are the kinds of
things that scouts are trying to get answered. These are also the
questions you and your son need to consider.
If you want to know more about where your son might rank, I suggest
trying to get in touch with Allan Simpson, founder of Baseball
America and a phenomenal draft hound. He organizes their Prospect
Plus rankings. If you can't get in touch with Allan Simpson, then
try Alan Matthews who has been covering high school baseball this
season for Baseball America. Maybe they can give you some idea about
where your son ranks and what round teams may be willing to select
him.
Hope this helps. If you ever want to talk more, please don't
hesitate to contact me. I wish the best for you and your son!